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From: Les Chibana <[[email protected]]>
Subject: Re: [SBB] Additional hawk photos
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 19:10:53 -0800
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Whew, I thought that I was suffering from 
Extreme-Slowness-of-Modem-Connection" when I saw the additional images 
upon looking back at your page. I do, but I'm glad to find out that 
they weren't there earlier.

The third shot shows the rounded outer corners of the tail feathers, 
good for Cooper's. The visible feathers from the back are the central 
ones. The second shot shows the smallness of the eye and the more 
forward position in the face (compared to Sharp-shinned), also good for 
Cooper's.

The white spotting on the back (white bases of back feathers) can show 
on both Sharp-shinned and Cooper's.

If anyone can remember the differences in the undersides of the 
immatures, please refresh my memory.

Les Chibana


On Nov 24, 2004, at 6:36 PM, Philip Terzian wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> It seems that this identification business is more complicated than I 
> thought.  (I'm very new at this)  It seems to be complicated by the 
> apparent fact that this is a juvenile.
>
> I went back to my digital CF card and found a couple of more shots of 
> the hawk that may be helpful to you experts.  One is of the bird's 
> tail, the other shows a small portion of the underside of one wing.  
> Not sure if this will help.  The photos are posted  under the original 
> on my web.
>
> http://www.pt-photos.com/cooperhawk_page.htm
>
> I really would like to know if this is a coopers or a sharp shin.
>
> Thanks again for your opinions and expertise.
>
> Phil

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