From south-bay-birds-bounces+south-bay-birds-archive=[[email protected]] Tue Nov 16 11:10:47 2004 Received: from www.plaidworks.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plaidworks.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iAGJ7Zjo003316 for <[[email protected]]>; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 11:07:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from prattle.redback.com (prattle.redback.com [155.53.12.9]) by plaidworks.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iAGJ5nVC003266 for <[[email protected]]>; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 11:05:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prattle.redback.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98124106187 for <[[email protected]]>; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 11:05:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from prattle.redback.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (prattle [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03322-08 for <[[email protected]]>; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 11:05:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from redback.com (dhcp-45-53.redback.com [155.53.45.53]) by prattle.redback.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A709106188 for <[[email protected]]>; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 11:05:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <[[email protected]]> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 11:07:55 -0800 From: Eric Goodill <[[email protected]]> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: [[email protected]] Subject: Re: [SBB] Sunnyvale Widgeons References: <[[email protected]]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at redback.com X-BeenThere: [[email protected]] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5b1 Precedence: list List-Id: South Bay Birding List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: south-bay-birds-bounces+south-bay-birds-archive=[[email protected]] Errors-To: south-bay-birds-bounces+south-bay-birds-archive=[[email protected]] Hello birders, I went out this morning and scoped the zillions of ducks loitering around the south side of the west pond. I didn't walk all they way out there, but I think I got good enough views with the scope. In any event, I only found one unambiguous EURASIAN WIGEON with the rufous head, straw-color head patch, total lack of the green swoop pattern around eye that an American Wigeon has (not sure what to call this), and gray flanks. I saw several wigeons that similar heads to the EUWI but still has the rufous/chestnut flanks that AMWIs have. These birds confused me--not sure if they might have been some kind of hybrid, molting, or a combination. Good birding, Eric Weber, Dave wrote: > Regarding the possible hybrids, I based my comments on > > 1) Sibley, which shows 2 hybrids with different mixes of chestnut and grey, and fair amount of green on the head. Those seen today also showed the green. One bird, that I think I saw 12 days ago, had a very even blend of the chestnut and grey on the sides. > > 2) A widgeon seen last year in Redwood Shores that I think was deemed a hybrid. It had the two colors intruding into each other where they meet on the side of the breast, plus some green on the head.. > > I hope I'm wrong. I settle for 5 Eurasian Widgeons anytime. I'll be going back in a few days to check again. > > Anyone have any idea about the yellow-headed widgeon? > > Dave Weber > Milpitas. > > ________________________________ > > From: Michael Mammoser > Sent: Mon 11/15/2004 1:34 PM > To: SBB > Subject: RE: [SBB] Sunnyvale Widgeons > > You have to be careful what you call a hybrid. You mentioned previously a > bird that had a mixture of gray and chestnut on the flanks. If that's the > case with these birds, then they are likely birds that are still molting > from eclipse plumage into alternate plumage, rather than hybrids. > > Michael Mammoser > > -----Original Message----- > From: Weber, Dave > Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 1:15 PM > > At noon I walked out to the S side of the W pond at the SWPCP. Saw 5 male > Eurasian Widgeons, 2 pure and 3 hybrid. Most interesting bird was an > American Widgeon. It had the normal green patch on the head, but the rest of > the head was bright yellow. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. south-bay-birds mailing list ([[email protected]]) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://www.plaidworks.com/mailman/options/south-bay-birds/south-bay-birds-archive%40plaidworks.com This email sent to [[email protected]]