From south-bay-birds-bounces+south-bay-birds-archive=[[email protected]] Sat Mar 27 17:34:08 2004 Received: from www.plaidworks.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plaidworks.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i2S1WjAr003046 for <[[email protected]]>; Sat, 27 Mar 2004 17:32:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from soulshock.mail.pas.earthlink.net (soulshock.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.130]) by plaidworks.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i2S1SppJ002866 for <[[email protected]]>; Sat, 27 Mar 2004 17:28:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net (falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.74]) by soulshock.mail.pas.earthlink.net (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i2RMeKZ02798 for <[[email protected]]>; Sat, 27 Mar 2004 14:40:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from user-2ivflcl.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.213.149]) by falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1B7MSh-0004Cq-00 for [[email protected]]; Sat, 27 Mar 2004 14:39:32 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v609) In-Reply-To: <[[email protected]]> References: <[[email protected]]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <[[email protected]]> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Matthew Dodder <[[email protected]]> Subject: Re: [SBB] Hawk ID help Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 14:43:19 -0800 To: [[email protected]] X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.609) X-BeenThere: [[email protected]] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5b1 Precedence: list List-Id: South Bay Birding List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: south-bay-birds-bounces+south-bay-birds-archive=[[email protected]] Errors-To: south-bay-birds-bounces+south-bay-birds-archive=[[email protected]] All, My two cents: Looks like an imm. Cooper's Hawk to me, but perhaps more than one individual. The wings short of the tail by a good margin (marking it as an Accipiter) Similarly, the tail is heavily barred, quite long and white-tipped. (Accipter) The eyes are placed forward on the head (differentiating it from the smaller, but similar Sharp-shin). This gives the bird a relatively fiercome expression. Sharpies tend to look more crazed (bug-eyed...) The head is rather flat (looks a bit capped in some shots). Sharpies have more rounded heads. The tarsus is pretty heavy (again, to differentiate it from a Sharpie which has razor thin legs) There are more records of breeding Cooper's Hawk in the area (often in residential neigborhoods) than Sharpies. Matthew Dodder http://www.birdguy.net _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. south-bay-birds mailing list ([[email protected]]) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://www.plaidworks.com/mailman/options/south-bay-birds/south-bay-birds-archive%40plaidworks.com This email sent to [[email protected]]