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... from the Baylands duck pond, as I struggle, late in life, with a porous
brain, to learn to identify the immature gulls -- at least when I bring
home pictures of them that I'd like to label correctly...

1. Four gulls that seem on inspection all to be first-winter Western x
Glaucous-winged to me -- are any of them Herring Gulls? (or, anything
else...?) http://www.geocities.com/tgrey41/Pages/GullQueryp.html

2. Is this California Gull first or second winter? I thought second because
of the extensive white on the breast and throat, but then I realize wear
can produce the same effect on a first winter bird by this time of year. Am
I right that first winter CAGU can show that much gray feathering on the
saddle? (This individual also seems to have a slightly funky bill, some
kind of discoloration obscuring most of the black tip.)
http://www.geocities.com/tgrey41/CaliforniaGull12.jpg

Tom Grey
http://www.geocities.com/tgrey41


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