From south-bay-birds-bounces+south-bay-birds-archive=[[email protected]] Wed Jul 14 22:01:26 2004 Received: from www.plaidworks.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plaidworks.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i6F4wKOY002323 for <[[email protected]]>; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 21:58:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from la.znet.com (la.znet.com [207.167.96.1]) by plaidworks.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i6F4v2MR002275 for <[[email protected]]>; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 21:57:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [69.19.247.147] (host-69-19-247-106.rev.o1.com [69.19.247.106]) by la.znet.com (8.12.6/8.12.6/le1-la) with ESMTP id i6F4uvnE026937 for <[[email protected]]>; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 21:56:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Envelope-From: [[email protected]] X-Envelope-To: <[[email protected]]> Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <[[email protected]]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 21:58:32 -0700 To: [[email protected]] From: Dean Manley <[[email protected]]> Subject: Re: [SBB] Ruffs in New Chicago Marsh X-BeenThere: [[email protected]] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5b1 Precedence: list List-Id: South Bay Birding List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: south-bay-birds-bounces+south-bay-birds-archive=[[email protected]] Errors-To: south-bay-birds-bounces+south-bay-birds-archive=[[email protected]] Hi, The male partial alternate RUFF we saw today was rather impressive, as shorebirds go, even without it's alternate head and neck plumage. Try to see it if you like shorebirds. The descriptions in my postings for my 7/12 and 7/13 sightings indicate some specific exceptions with Al's Ruff descripton meaning the Ruffs I saw aren't the same as the bird Al described. But I see I created some ambiguity when I stated "I'm trying to resolve whether or not there is more than one Ruff in the NCM." in my 7/13 post. I should have said....more than two Ruffs....meaning I was considering my own two sightings as being different birds from each other or not. Sorry about that. As to whether todays Ruff is the same Ruff Al reported, it does seem "likely" to me as a matter of probability and pretty much matching the available description. No absolutes here. I suppose the argument always is if there could be one why not two? And there has to be n number of quality detail matches to meet the probability of a match criteria. So birders, get out to the NCM and search. By the way, Bob turned up the alt Ruff today. Dean Manley _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. south-bay-birds mailing list ([[email protected]]) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://www.plaidworks.com/mailman/options/south-bay-birds/south-bay-birds-archive%40plaidworks.com This email sent to [[email protected]]