From south-bay-birds-bounces+south-bay-birds-archive=[[email protected]] Sun Aug 29 21:21:46 2004 Received: from www.plaidworks.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plaidworks.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i7U4JMGS023471 for <[[email protected]]>; Sun, 29 Aug 2004 21:19:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.116]) by plaidworks.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i7U4HoDB023409 for <[[email protected]]>; Sun, 29 Aug 2004 21:17:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 588181826worldnet (102.san-jose-03rh15rt.ca.dial-access.att.net[12.72.201.102]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12) with SMTP id <200408300417481120041rgre>; Mon, 30 Aug 2004 04:17:49 +0000 Message-ID: <02c301c48e48$8aa560a0$[[email protected]]> From: "Jan Hintermeister" <[[email protected]]> To: <[[email protected]]>, "Alvaro Jaramillo" <[[email protected]]> References: <[[email protected]]> Subject: Re: [SBB] flamingo Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 21:18:38 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Cc: X-BeenThere: [[email protected]] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5b1 Precedence: list List-Id: South Bay Birding List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: south-bay-birds-bounces+south-bay-birds-archive=[[email protected]] Errors-To: south-bay-birds-bounces+south-bay-birds-archive=[[email protected]] Al, The flamingo we saw did have a half-black bill as shown in Sibley and no hint of yellow as shown in the Puna and Andean Flamingos from your wonderful Birds of Chile. As we looked at the bird, we were mainly looking at the bill to distinguish between Sibley's Chilean, Greater and Lesser Flamingos. >From your Birds of Chile, our bird looked most like the subadult Chilean. The only red I noticed on the body was the red stretching horizontally across the body (greater coverts?), although our view was from some distance, perhaps 150 yards. The legs overall looked dark with a hint of red on the leg joint; I think they were in shadow. We were hoping to see a flamingo today, as Shirley Wodtke and Mary Lou Ramsey have also seen a flamingo on R1 on the two occasions they have surveyed these ponds for Snowy Plovers for SFBBO, on 31 July and 23 August. Since all three SFBBO visits have seen a flamingo on R1 and so many have seen the A-14 flamingo, this sounds like two flamingos. Also as Summer mentions, we looked for and did not see a band on the R1 bird. Dave Weber reported a 5 July observation of two Chilean Flamingos, so there may still be at least two Chilean Flamingos in the South Bay, one banded at A14 and one unbanded on R1. Thanks for the link and also the reminder that all conscientious south bay birders should keep a copy of Birds of Chile in their daypack, just in case. Jan Hintermeister Santa Clara, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alvaro Jaramillo" <[[email protected]]> To: "Karen DeMello" <[[email protected]]>; <[[email protected]]> Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 7:22 PM Subject: [SBB] flamingo > At 05:38 PM 8/29/2004 -0700, Karen DeMello wrote: > > >In R1 we saw a FLAMINGO (it looked like the Chilean Flamingo in the Sibley > >Guide as it had an all-dark bill). > > Karen > > The Chilean Flamingo shouldn't have an all dark bill, dark terminal > half yes, but not completely dark. The bill of the Lesser Flamingo looks > dark from a distance. The following link has some images taken from our > Birds of Chile field guide, the top illustration is Chilean Flamingo, > middle is Andean F, and lower is Puna (James) F. > > http://www.flamencosandinos.org/flamencos.asp > > A key point for Chilean Flamingo is to look for grey legs with red knees. > > regards > > Al > > Alvaro Jaramillo > Biologist > San Francisco Bay Bird Observatory > P.O. Box 247 > Alviso, CA 95002 > (408)-946-6548 > http://www.sfbbo.org/ > > NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS AS OF MAY 2004 > > [[email protected]] > > > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > south-bay-birds mailing list ([[email protected]]) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > http://www.plaidworks.com/mailman/options/south-bay-birds/j.hintermeister%40 worldnet.att.net > > This email sent to [[email protected]] _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. south-bay-birds mailing list ([[email protected]]) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://www.plaidworks.com/mailman/options/south-bay-birds/south-bay-birds-archive%40plaidworks.com This email sent to [[email protected]]