From south-bay-birds-bounces+south-bay-birds-archive=[[email protected]] Thu Aug 19 22:01:57 2004 Received: from www.plaidworks.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plaidworks.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i7K50tGR019415 for <[[email protected]]>; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 22:00:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from la.znet.com (la.znet.com [207.167.96.1]) by plaidworks.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i7K4t0DB019316 for <[[email protected]]>; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 21:55:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [69.19.246.121] (host-69-19-246-121.rev.o1.com [69.19.246.121]) by la.znet.com (8.12.6/8.12.6/le1-la) with ESMTP id i7K4svdk019548 for <[[email protected]]>; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 21:54:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Envelope-From: [[email protected]] X-Envelope-To: <[[email protected]]> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 21:57:02 -0700 To: [[email protected]] From: Dean Manley <[[email protected]]> Subject: [SBB] Spreckles St. is Golden X-BeenThere: [[email protected]] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5b1 Precedence: list List-Id: South Bay Birding List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: south-bay-birds-bounces+south-bay-birds-archive=[[email protected]] Errors-To: south-bay-birds-bounces+south-bay-birds-archive=[[email protected]] Hi SBBers, Late this afternoon (approx between 4:30 and 4:45) I spotted a PACIFIC GOLDEN-PLOVER in the Spreckles St. Pond in Alviso. It was on an island near the Spreckles St. side of the pond and north of State St. a short distance. Two other birders were near by at the time, Chris Wolfe and Dave Kiehl. Initially I wasn't to keen on thrashing out whether it was a Pacific or American recalling last years controversial Golden-Plover which turned out to be a long-winged Pacific (that maybe not accepted by all). Shortly Kris Olson and Dave Weber arrived, followed later by John Hutz. More observations and thoughts were kicked around. Kris called Mike Rogers, who came over and pulled the ID together This bird is in mostly alternate plumage. The wing tips extended a little past the tail but not far as in the American. Some tertials were missing on the left side but you could see 3 primary tips with the end two primary tips very close together. The third tip in was spaced back considerably and had a fine buffy V mark at it's tip. Despite missing tertials I could not detect any additional primary tips. Mostly the bird presented his left side but looks on the right indicated more tertials but I didn't come away with a clear count of primary tips on the right side. Maybe Mike did. There is a white, with black marks, area on the flanks below the folded wing and the blacker lower belly area as Pacifics have but this amateur wondered if we could be fooled by molting. Mike cleared this notion up indicating that there was very little molt showing. Another observation was that during wing stretches, no missing (molted) primaries or secondaries were seen. There seems to be an error in another parties post as to the spotter of this Pacific Golden-plover and I hope I can minimize any confusion caused. Chris Wolfe and Dave Kiehl were the only other birders on location when I arrived and when I called out the golden plover. They gave every indication of seeing it for the first time at that point. Later, to make sure I didn't make any errors on the matter, I ask them, together, specifically who the spotter was and they indicated that I was. Enough! Finally, it was noted, where else can one stand on a city street and see Pacific Golden-plover, Stilt Sandpiper, Ruff and a Reeve just by panning the optics a bit. Dean Manley _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. south-bay-birds mailing list ([[email protected]]) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://www.plaidworks.com/mailman/options/south-bay-birds/south-bay-birds-archive%40plaidworks.com This email sent to [[email protected]]