From south-bay-birds-bounces+south-bay-birds-archive=[[email protected]] Mon Sep 22 16:22:54 2003 Received: from www.plaidworks.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plaidworks.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8MNIEIC003802 for <[[email protected]]>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:18:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp3.Stanford.EDU (smtp3.stanford.edu [171.64.14.172]) by plaidworks.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8MNHGZP003746 for <[[email protected]]>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:17:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sametime.stanford.edu (sametime.Stanford.EDU [171.64.210.62]) by smtp3.Stanford.EDU (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8MNHCwD023624 for <[[email protected]]>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:17:12 -0700 (PDT) To: [[email protected]] X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0 September 26, 2002 Message-ID: <[[email protected]]> From: "Tom Grey" <[[email protected]]> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:18:40 -0700 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on sametime/stanford(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 09/22/2003 04:18:42 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [SBB] Pluvialis chibanensis X-BeenThere: [[email protected]] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2+ Precedence: list List-Id: South Bay Birding List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: south-bay-birds-bounces+south-bay-birds-archive=[[email protected]] Errors-To: south-bay-birds-bounces+south-bay-birds-archive=[[email protected]] Les Chibana modified one of my digiscopes of the contested Golden Plover so as to ... well let me quote Les: "FWIW, I took the liberty of adding some lines to your image 2 to help distinguish the relative measurements for eye-to-bill-base vs. wing extension. I made two lines because Paulson doesn't specify exactly where one measures the eye to bill base: whether to base of culmen or gape. I also sharpened the image a bit to help define the primary tips. Using either measurement, red or blue line, the wing extension seems equal to or longer than either eye-to-bill measurement..." "Hayman, Marchant & Prater don't seem to use this measurement, rather they use the relative value of bill length X tarsus length. They provide both range of measurements but, obviously, this is useful only when one can measure in-hand. They also note a slight overlap of wing length ranges for both species." Thanks to Les! And for what light it may cast, here it is... ("Northern California birders have photographed an apparent Pluvialis plover with a most unusual plumage variation...") http://www.geocities.com/tgrey41/GoldenPlover2mod.jpg Tom Grey [[email protected]] _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. south-bay-birds mailing list ([[email protected]]) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://www.plaidworks.com/mailman/options/south-bay-birds/south-bay-birds-archive%40plaidworks.com This email sent to [[email protected]]