From south-bay-birds-bounces+south-bay-birds-archive=[[email protected]] Thu Jul 31 10:41:19 2003 Received: from www.plaidworks.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plaidworks.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6VHcNFf018354 for <[[email protected]]>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 10:38:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp6.Stanford.EDU (smtp6.stanford.edu [171.67.16.33]) by plaidworks.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6VHblkK018303 for <[[email protected]]>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 10:37:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by smtp6.Stanford.EDU (8.12.9/8.12.9) id h6VHbli1022504 for [[email protected]]; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 10:37:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sametime.stanford.edu (sametime.Stanford.EDU [171.64.210.62]) by smtp6.Stanford.EDU (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6VHbkpC022500 for <[[email protected]]>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 10:37:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [SBB] Palo Alto Baylands puzzlers, 7-30 To: [[email protected]] X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.4 June 8, 2000 Message-ID: <[[email protected]]> From: "Tom Grey" <[[email protected]]> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 10:38:46 -0700 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on sametime/stanford(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 07/31/2003 10:39:06 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-BeenThere: [[email protected]] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2+ Precedence: list List-Id: South Bay Birding List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: south-bay-birds-bounces+south-bay-birds-archive=[[email protected]] Errors-To: south-bay-birds-bounces+south-bay-birds-archive=[[email protected]] OK, here's what may be a better picture of the puzzle gull, for i.d. purposes -- a straight on profile. Not quite as sharp focus. Shows the primaries much better, and they seem inconsistent with GWGU. Also the head doesn't look quite as blocky, which may cut against GW/W and in favor of CAGU. http://www.geocities.com/tgrey41/GullQuery2.jpg I have a couple of other shots, but they are more head on. The bill pattern is consistent though -- the dark mark is larger on the lower culmen. which I gather is the CAGU pattern, and there's a light tip. The only editing I did on this was to sharpen a little, darken a little, and shift the color balance toward blue a little -- latter because my scope is on the warm side. It is extremely cool to get a gull tutorial from David Suddjian, Mike Rogers, and Al Jaramillo! I should note this is one of the side-effects of taking up digiscoping for me -- now, when I get a picture I want to keep, I want to identify the bird as exactly as possible. I'd used to say "immature gull - hmm, I'll have to look into those some day." Tom Grey [[email protected]] http://www.geocities.com/tgrey41/index.html "Dr. Michael M. Rogers" To: "Tom Grey" <[[email protected]]> [[email protected]] Subject: Re: [SBB] Palo Alto Baylands puzzlers, 07/31/2003 7-30 10:06 AM All, David Suddjian has told me that on his monitor the mantle color of the Palo Alto Baylands puzzler gull looks fine for CALIFORNIA GULL and that he feels that is what the bird is. Certainly this is a much better explanation for the bill pattern and the faded brown primary color looks much like a first fall CAGU. The legs of a second-winter CAGU are usually a characteristic bluish/greenish color, but this is early enough in the season that pink legs are probably to be expected. I think this probably is a first-fall CAGU and I have been fooled by the apparent gray on my monitor :( Any other photos that give a size comparison to other birds? Mike _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. south-bay-birds mailing list ([[email protected]]) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://www.plaidworks.com/mailman/options/south-bay-birds/south-bay-birds-archive%40plaidworks.com This email sent to [[email protected]]