From south-bay-birds-bounces+south-bay-birds-archive=[[email protected]] Mon Aug 25 11:44:16 2003 Received: from www.plaidworks.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plaidworks.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7PIfQkV028078 for <[[email protected]]>; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 11:41:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp2.Stanford.EDU (smtp2.stanford.edu [171.64.14.116]) by plaidworks.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7PIdaVK028018 for <[[email protected]]>; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 11:39:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lawmail1.stanford.edu (lawmail1.Stanford.EDU [171.64.212.80]) by smtp2.Stanford.EDU (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7PIdHls028418 for <[[email protected]]>; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 11:39:27 -0700 (PDT) To: [[email protected]] X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.4 June 8, 2000 Message-ID: <[[email protected]]> From: "Tom Grey" <[[email protected]]> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 11:40:48 -0700 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on lawmail1/stanford(Release 5.0.12 |February 13, 2003) at 08/25/2003 11:40:54 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [SBB] molting phalaropes, followup X-BeenThere: [[email protected]] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2+ Precedence: list List-Id: South Bay Birding List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: south-bay-birds-bounces+south-bay-birds-archive=[[email protected]] Errors-To: south-bay-birds-bounces+south-bay-birds-archive=[[email protected]] I posted pictures of four molting Red-necked Phalaropes from Shoreline, speculating that they were three adults and a juvenile, and one of the adults was a female -- and inviting instruction. I got some, which is one of the great benefits of this group, and for which renewed thanks! The consensus of the informed seems to be that they are all adults, and can't be sexed. Here's the adult I thought might be sexed female: 1. http://www.geocities.com/tgrey41/PhalMolting.jpg There's a remnant of adult rufous breeding plumage on the neck, and I thought it was more extensive in coverage than males would show. But I was relying mostly on the pictures of breeding-plumage phalaropes I could find in field guides and online, as my experience with them is limited and my experience actually noticing this feature limited even more. There is presumably more overlap than I was assuming. Here's the one I thought might be a juvenile: 2. http://www.geocities.com/tgrey41/PhalMolting2.jpg If this was a juvenile the tertials would be white-fringed and they pretty clearly aren't. I was going with superficial features of this bird matching the description of juvenal RNPH plumage in Paulson, p. 356, and the picture on p. 358 -- darker upperparts than adult basic, well defined mantle stripe, and the appearance of winter gray feathers starting in the scapulars. But the absence of the white-fringed tertials seems decisive. Tom Grey [[email protected]] _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. south-bay-birds mailing list ([[email protected]]) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://www.plaidworks.com/mailman/options/south-bay-birds/south-bay-birds-archive%40plaidworks.com This email sent to [[email protected]]