From south-bay-birds-bounces+south-bay-birds-archive=[[email protected]] Sun Aug 24 21:10:41 2003 Received: from www.plaidworks.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plaidworks.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7P48PkU013923 for <[[email protected]]>; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 21:08:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grouse.mail.pas.earthlink.net (grouse.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.116]) by plaidworks.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7P46XVK013858 for <[[email protected]]>; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 21:06:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from user-vcauqk2.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.106.130] helo=pavilion.earthlink.net) by grouse.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19r8ci-0003Mi-00 for [[email protected]]; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 21:06:33 -0700 Message-Id: <[[email protected]]> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 21:16:19 -0700 To: [[email protected]] From: Bill Bousman <[[email protected]]> Subject: Re: [SBB] molting phalaropes In-Reply-To: <[[email protected]]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-BeenThere: [[email protected]] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2+ Precedence: list List-Id: South Bay Birding List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: south-bay-birds-bounces+south-bay-birds-archive=[[email protected]] Errors-To: south-bay-birds-bounces+south-bay-birds-archive=[[email protected]] At 01:11 PM 8/24/03 -0700, Tom Grey wrote: >I went to Shoreline around high tide (midday) yesterday, and was clicking >away at shorebirds driven in to forage on the flats in Adobe Creek, when a >small group of phalaropes showed up. They were all in molt, and seem all -- >at least all that I got reproducible pictures of -- to have been >Red-necked. Here are five phalaropes in four pictures (though I think they >are just four separate birds); I've been trying to figure out sex and age. > > 1. http://www.geocities.com/tgrey41/PhalMolting.jpg >Adult female RNPH? > >2. http://www.geocities.com/tgrey41/PhalMolting2.jpg >Juvenile RNPH? > >3. http://www.geocities.com/tgrey41/PhalWESA.jpg >With juvenile Western Sandpiper (lots of them in attendance), adult RNPH, >molt gone too far to determine sex from plumage pattern? > >4. http://www.geocities.com/tgrey41/Phals.jpg >Left, adult RNPH, furthest molted of any of these -- male by size? Right, >looks to be the same bird as (2), juvenile RNPH. > >In other news, the Cliff Swallows were posing nicely. Here is a juvenile >making use of solar energy. >http://www.geocities.com/tgrey41/CliffSwallowJuv.jpg > >Tom Grey I lack the experience to tell the difference between an adult molting into basic and a juvenile well into first basic. However, looking at these pictures, I don't see any birds with the fresh rufous edges on the scapulars and tertials that I would expect to see on a juvenile. All of these birds seem well on their way to basic and I don't see anyway to sex them (I find size differences difficult to judge correctly, even from photos). I would leave them all as molting Red-necked Phalaropes, achieving basic plumage. Bill _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. south-bay-birds mailing list ([[email protected]]) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://www.plaidworks.com/mailman/options/south-bay-birds/south-bay-birds-archive%40plaidworks.com This email sent to [[email protected]]