From south-bay-birds-bounces+south-bay-birds-archive=[[email protected]] Thu Aug 7 09:56:12 2003 Received: from www.plaidworks.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plaidworks.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h77GrQdc016736 for <[[email protected]]>; Thu, 7 Aug 2003 09:53:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp9.Stanford.EDU (smtp9.stanford.edu [171.67.16.36]) by plaidworks.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h77Gqmvj016683 for <[[email protected]]>; Thu, 7 Aug 2003 09:52:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lawmail1.stanford.edu (lawmail1.Stanford.EDU [171.64.212.80]) by smtp9.Stanford.EDU (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h77Gqgla019306; Thu, 7 Aug 2003 09:52:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [SBB] feeder goldfinch query To: Joseph Morlan <[[email protected]]> X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.4 June 8, 2000 Message-ID: <[[email protected]]> From: "Tom Grey" <[[email protected]]> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 09:43:05 -0700 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on lawmail1/stanford(Release 5.0.12 |February 13, 2003) at 08/07/2003 09:54:05 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: [[email protected]] X-BeenThere: [[email protected]] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2+ Precedence: list List-Id: South Bay Birding List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: south-bay-birds-bounces+south-bay-birds-archive=[[email protected]] Errors-To: south-bay-birds-bounces+south-bay-birds-archive=[[email protected]] According to Clement, the Lawrence's juvenile (which I've never seen) has the broad buffy wingbars too, though they are shown as darker than these and described as "buffish-brown." On the other hand the more washed-out upperpart coloration of this bird fits the Clement LAGO better, as does the underpart coloration -- Clement's drawing and description both stress the dark rich brown of the upperparts and head on the juvenile AMGO, and show the underparts with yellow-brown, where this bird is mostly light gray. But there's no trace of streaking on the breast of this bird (I throw in another shot that shows more of the breast, with no streaking) and I guess supports concluding it's a juvenile AMGO on the light-colored side. http://www.geocities.com/tgrey41/GoldfinchQuery.jpg http://www.geocities.com/tgrey41/GoldfinchQuery2.jpg Tom Grey Stanford Law School [[email protected]] Joseph Morlan <[[email protected]] To: "Tom Grey" <[[email protected]]> > cc: [[email protected]] Subject: Re: [SBB] feeder goldfinch query 08/07/2003 07:15 AM On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 06:41:57 -0700, "Tom Grey" <[[email protected]]> wrote: >I'm guessing female American Goldfinch, nonbreeding -- maybe a >first summer bird? (The plain gray bill.) Or might it be a juvenile? I'd call it an immature American Goldfinch. Note the broad buffy wing-bars. -- Joseph Morlan, Pacifica, CA 94044 [[email protected]] Fall Birding Classes start Sept 3 http://fog.ccsf.org/~jmorlan/ California Bird Records Committee http://www.wfo-cbrc.org/cbrc/ _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. south-bay-birds mailing list ([[email protected]]) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://www.plaidworks.com/mailman/options/south-bay-birds/south-bay-birds-archive%40plaidworks.com This email sent to [[email protected]]