Received: from napa.hamilton.com (napa.hamilton.com [192.207.15.8]) by plaidworks.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8BBasV07536 for <[[email protected]]>; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 04:36:54 -0700 Received: from napa.hamilton.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by napa.hamilton.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BBatjf013512 for <[[email protected]]>; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 04:36:55 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by napa.hamilton.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BBat9d013511 for [[email protected]]; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 04:36:55 -0700 Received: from nrtspc.hamilton.com (nrtspc.hamilton.com [192.207.15.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by napa.hamilton.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BBarjg013506 for <[[email protected]]>; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 04:36:53 -0700 Message-Id: <[[email protected]]> X-Sender: [[email protected]] X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 04:36:47 -0700 To: [[email protected]] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: Nancy Teater <[[email protected]]> Subject: [SBB] Phalarope Question Sender: [[email protected]] Errors-To: [[email protected]] X-BeenThere: [[email protected]] X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: After I enjoyed watching Wilson's Phalaropes doing their spinning act in Alviso recently, I wondered why we never see them at the Palo Alto/Mountain View Baylands. Lack of non-tidal shallow water? Thanks to anyone who can enlighten me, Nancy Teater -- Nancy R. Teater Hamilton Communications phone: +1 650 321 0252 [[email protected]] http://web.hamilton.com fax: +1 650 327 4660 Received: from napa.hamilton.com (napa.hamilton.com [192.207.15.8]) by plaidworks.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8BGTjV11503 for <[[email protected]]>; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:29:45 -0700 Received: from napa.hamilton.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by napa.hamilton.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BGTljf015478 for <[[email protected]]>; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:29:47 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by napa.hamilton.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BGTl5j015477 for [[email protected]]; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:29:47 -0700 Received: from nrtspc.hamilton.com (nrtspc.hamilton.com [192.207.15.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by napa.hamilton.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BGTijg015472 for <[[email protected]]>; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:29:45 -0700 Message-Id: <[[email protected]]> X-Sender: [[email protected]] X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:29:33 -0700 To: [[email protected]] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: Nancy Teater <[[email protected]]> Subject: [SBB] Clapper Rail!? Sender: [[email protected]] Errors-To: [[email protected]] X-BeenThere: [[email protected]] X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I'll start this with a disclaimer since I'm not a rail expert, but I believe I saw a Clapper Rail at the bridge over the inlet to the Palo Alto Flood Control Basin this morning around 8:00 a.m. It may have been a juvenile; it was quite light in color. It didn't look like any of the pictures of Virginia Rail in my books. The bird was sitting on the rocks very near the path and did not startle until another person walked past. It then flew a short distance to pickleweed just outside the gate, where it began to forage. I was astonished to see a rail out in the open when in the past, I have spent hours staring at bushes and pickleweed straining to see one. Nancy Teater -- Nancy R. Teater Hamilton Communications phone: +1 650 321 0252 [[email protected]] http://web.hamilton.com fax: +1 650 327 4660 Received: from imo-d09.mx.aol.com (imo-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.41]) by plaidworks.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8BMtdV17642 for <[[email protected]]>; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:55:39 -0700 Received: from [[email protected]] by imo-d09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.10.) id t.15f.13b3229f (4394) for <[[email protected]]>; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 18:55:25 -0400 (EDT) From: [[email protected]] Message-ID: <[[email protected]]> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 18:55:25 EDT To: [[email protected]] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10637 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 0.98b X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [SBB] Nashville Warbler and other birds today..... Sender: [[email protected]] Errors-To: [[email protected]] X-BeenThere: [[email protected]] X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Good afternoon all.... Today Peggy Don and I birded over at the CCFS in search of the Prairie Falcon and other migrants. We didn't get to see the Prairie Falcon, but had a wonderful time birding. We saw Wilson's Warblers, Orange-crowned Warblers, Common Yellowthroats. A Kestrel was on the power pole and a Red-tail in the tree behind the banding station. We also had a Northern Harrier flying over the fields. Also saw Pacific Slope Flycatchers as well as Willow Flycatchers. We stopped at the banding station and were informed that they banded two Swainson's Thrushes today (Peggy and I heard one but didn't see one). We also watched two magnificent Red Foxes. One left the other behind and went into the bushes. Peggy and I watched the other stalk a cat. Unbelievable to watch. We would have stayed longer to see the outcome but that Prairie Falcon was calling us to the EEC. From the CCFS we went to check out the road along the EEC (the gate was locked today). We had a Peregrine Falcon on the tower and 3 Red-tails on the towers too. We saw the 4 Pectoral Sandpipers feeding along with the 4 Lesser and 3 Greater Yellowlegs. On our walk up the driveway we flushed the same female Pheasant I had the other day. Lots of House Finch, Song Sparrows and another Northern Harrier flying over. We checked the trees and the reeds for migrants and found, Wilson's Warblers, Common Yellowthroat, Orange-crowned and Yellow Warblers, and a Nashville Warbler. We had great scope and binocular views of the Nashville. It would fly down from the trees into the reeds and pick at the seeds at the end of the reeds. We had a calling Virginia Rail in the reeds as we walked out to the floating dock. At the dock area we had a Great Blue Heron, Great Egret and a hundred plus Peeps. Marsh Wrens were calling as well as Song Sparrows. After the walking back down the driveway and not finding the Prairie Falcon we decided to take a quick check of Arinzo Ranch (they plowed the field across from the church). At the ranch we saw 5 Red-tail Hawks, a dozen plus Turkey Vulture, one brought back something to eat for a younger one. A Western Meadow in the field. We noticed not one Burrowing Owl....looks like the ground squirrels have taken over the burrows. Wishing you all good birding and my best regards, Linda Sullivan Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.104]) by plaidworks.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8C00WV18667 for <[[email protected]]>; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 17:00:32 -0700 Received: from [[email protected]] by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.10.) id t.197.cef6617 (4394) for <[[email protected]]>; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 20:00:20 -0400 (EDT) From: [[email protected]] Message-ID: <[[email protected]]> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 20:00:20 EDT To: [[email protected]] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10637 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 0.98b X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [SBB] Correction Sender: [[email protected]] Errors-To: [[email protected]] X-BeenThere: [[email protected]] X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Good afternoon all... I need to make a correction on the Foxes..they were Grey Foxes not Red Foxes...sorry. Good birding and my best regards, Linda Sullivan Received: from imo-d09.mx.aol.com (imo-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.41]) by plaidworks.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8C02CV18817 for <[[email protected]]>; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 17:02:12 -0700 Received: from [[email protected]] by imo-d09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.10.) id t.174.e5caf57 (16484) for <[[email protected]]>; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 20:02:04 -0400 (EDT) From: [[email protected]] Message-ID: <[[email protected]]> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 20:02:04 EDT To: [[email protected]] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10509 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 0.98b X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [SBB] Western Tanager Sender: [[email protected]] Errors-To: [[email protected]] X-BeenThere: [[email protected]] X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: All, Just had a nice Western Tanager stop by for a drink and a bath, also thought I saw one in bad light last night (also had Hooded Orioles lately). Take care, Bob Reiling, 2:17 PM, 9/10/02 Received: from petasus.ch.intel.com (petasus.ch.intel.com [143.182.124.5]) by plaidworks.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8C0MTV19212 for <[[email protected]]>; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 17:22:29 -0700 Received: from fmsmsxvs043.fm.intel.com (fmsmsxvs043.fm.intel.com [132.233.42.129]) by petasus.ch.intel.com (8.11.6/8.11.6/d: solo.mc,v 1.43 2002/08/30 20:06:11 dmccart Exp $) with SMTP id g8C0OF604166 for <[[email protected]]>; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 00:24:15 GMT Received: from fmsmsx019.fm.intel.com ([132.233.42.130]) by fmsmsxvs043.fm.intel.com (NAVGW 2.5.2.11) with SMTP id M2002091117205108405 for <[[email protected]]>; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 17:20:51 -0700 Received: by fmsmsx019.fm.intel.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 17:22:24 -0700 Message-ID: <[[email protected]]. com> From: "Tiwari, Vivek" <[[email protected]]> To: [[email protected]] Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 17:21:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Subject: [SBB] Id' ing Willow Flycatchers in fall Sender: [[email protected]] Errors-To: [[email protected]] X-BeenThere: [[email protected]] X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: We have been seeing reports of migrating Willow Flycatchers. I assume none of the birds are calling. How much confidence can one have wrt a visual id? Are people basically going by the shape of the eyering i.e. whether its tear-shaped or not? Is that sufficient, or is there overlap in this feature? Going by the field guides (Sibley in particular) it would seem that the features to look for are: a) Shape of the eyering - tear-shaped and more prominent in "Western" b) Color of the upperparts (brownish for Willow vs. olive greenish for "Western") c) Color of the underparts (whitish throat for Willow contrasting with the breast vs. a uniform dirty greenish/yellow throat and breast for "Western") d) Difference in the head shape e) Difference in bill shape f) Difference in size Are any of these diagnostic on their own or do we need to check off a combination of these features (some of which would only seem safe in a side-by-side comparison)? (Or am I being too paranoid and old-school here wrt fall Empids?) Thanks, Vivek [[email protected]] Received: from rtjones.nas.nasa.gov (rtjones.nas.nasa.gov [129.99.19.30]) by plaidworks.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8C0vkV19737 for <[[email protected]]>; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 17:57:46 -0700 Received: (from mrogers@localhost) by rtjones.nas.nasa.gov (SGI-8.9.3/8.9.3/NAS 8.9.3-4n) id RAA07183 for [[email protected]]; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 17:57:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 17:57:41 -0700 (PDT) From: "Dr. Michael M. Rogers" <[[email protected]]> Message-Id: <[[email protected]]> To: [[email protected]] Subject: [SBB] Willow Flycatcher ID Sender: [[email protected]] Errors-To: [[email protected]] X-BeenThere: [[email protected]] X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: SBBers, Vivek asked for advice regarding the identification of fall Willow Flycatchers and the level of detail that must be seen to confidently identify them. First, these birds do indeed call often and many times they are heard before being seen. However, while their "whit" call is great for eliminating Pacific-slope Flycatcher from consideration, there are several other empids that make a similar call note (all much more unusual than Willow in fall however). Although empids are in general a tough group, fall immature Willow Flycatchers from the western part of the U.S. are probably one of the easiest ones to identify confidently (eastern birds are greener-backed and can be tougher to separate). Willow Flycatchers are large empids with large broad bills. Our fall birds are typically quite brown, without the olive tones typical of most Pacific-slopes. The eyerings are usually almost absent and combined with their large size this makes confusion with Pewees perhaps more likely than with other empids. Occasional birds with stronger eyerings could be confused with Dusky Flycatchers - these birds may require careful scrutiny to identify, but most of our birds are fairly unambiguous. Now if you want to turn that "whit"ing empid into a Dusky or a Least you'd better study every detail of the bird! :) Mike Received: from smtp1.Stanford.EDU (smtp1.Stanford.EDU [171.64.14.23]) by plaidworks.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8C3QKV21745 for <[[email protected]]>; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 20:26:21 -0700 Received: from smtp1.Stanford.EDU (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1.Stanford.EDU (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8C3QKs15786 for <[[email protected]]>; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 20:26:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oemcomputer (DNab42a513.Stanford.EDU [171.66.165.19]) by smtp1.Stanford.EDU (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g8C3QJE15782 for <[[email protected]]>; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 20:26:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <[[email protected]] u> X-Sender: [[email protected]] X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 20:25:00 -0700 To: South Bay Bird List <[[email protected]]> From: Peter LaTourrette <[[email protected]]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: [SBB] Alviso shorebirds Sender: [[email protected]] Errors-To: [[email protected]] X-BeenThere: [[email protected]] X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This afternoon I walked from the EEC gate out the railroad track to the pond at the far corner, where the track joins the main line. On the way out I saw a Pacific Golden-Plover, in the usual location on the EEC side of the track. It flushed, however, and flew over to the Spreckles and State pond. At the pond at the far corner there were a Stilt Sandpiper and (briefly) a Pectoral Sandpiper, along with many other shorebirds. These birds were all feeding, in contrast to the Spreckles and State pond where most of the birds are usually resting. Six trains came by while I was there, and each time the birds would fly off, only to trickle back within a few minutes. --Peter ------------------------------------------------------ Peter LaTourrette North American Bird Photo Gallery: http://birdphotography.com/ Jasper Ridge, Hawai'i, New Zealand: http://www.stanford.edu/~petelat1/ Received: from npsmtp04la.mail2world.com (mw252.mail2world.com [66.28.189.252]) by plaidworks.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8C5T3V23166 for <[[email protected]]>; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 22:29:03 -0700 Received: from esweb05la (unverified [10.1.202.108]) by npsmtp04la.mail2world.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.5.6) with ESMTP id <[[email protected]]> for <[[email protected]]>; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 22:28:53 -0700 thread-index: AcJaHUhBMd+ipCtjQ6qaMFcvyLHE0w== Thread-Topic: 2 times 2 and other goodies at EEC From: "miguel demeulemeester" <[[email protected]]> To: <[[email protected]]> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 22:28:53 -0700 Message-ID: <004e01c25a1d$4842e450$[[email protected]]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Microsoft CDO for Exchange 2000 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Priority: normal X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 0.98b X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [SBB] 2 times 2 and other goodies at EEC Sender: [[email protected]] Errors-To: [[email protected]] X-BeenThere: [[email protected]] X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi all, Early evening shorebirding trip to the EEC-Chicago Marsh along the railroad tracks, heading towards the main railroad. Met Peter on my way in, telling me that I should definitely check the end of the tracks at the corner with the main railroad There were 2 PACIFIC GOLDEN PLOVERS, the (now) usual molting adult and a juvenile. One on the W-side of the tracks and one (the juvenile) at the end of the tracks. There were 2 STILT SANDPIPERS, the (now) usual winter adult and a 1st winter. The adult at the W-side and... yes the young one at the end of the tracks. The RUFF was also still present, as was (only?) one PECTORAL SANDPIPER. Rather uncommon there were also 3 BLACK-BELLIED PLOVERS. Furthermore the usual suspects: ton's of LEAST-, WESTERN SANDPIPERS, WILSON'S PHALAROPES, both YELLOWLEGS, both DOWITCHERS, many NORTHERN SHOVELERS, GADWALL, BLUE-WINGED- and CINNAMON TEAL. Many gulls where flying due W, where is the roosting place? Saw how a juvenile NORTHERN HARRIER caught a LEAST SANDPIPER... poor thing, but, that's how life is... (besides, it was a quick death...). As did a coughing LEAST thinking me that its next victim is not very far away... No Prairie Falcon, but 3 or 4 BURROWING OWLS made up at the barrier when I left. A group of WESTERN MEADOWLARKS flew right past me too. That was it, for about a 1,5 hour birding, Regards, Miguel