Received: from melete.ch.intel.com (chfdns02.ch.intel.com [143.182.246.25]) by plaidworks.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6NHhVt10649 for <[[email protected]]>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 10:43:31 -0700 Received: from fmsmsxvs042.fm.intel.com (fmsmsxvs042.fm.intel.com [132.233.42.128]) by melete.ch.intel.com (8.11.6/8.11.6/d: solo.mc,v 1.42 2002/05/23 22:21:11 root Exp $) with SMTP id g6NHhUR14311 for <[[email protected]]>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 17:43:31 GMT Received: from FMSMSX018.fm.intel.com ([132.233.42.197]) by fmsmsxvs042.fm.intel.com (NAVGW 2.5.2.11) with SMTP id M2002072310442325231 for <[[email protected]]>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 10:44:23 -0700 Received: by fmsmsx018.fm.intel.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <3WZHC05H>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 10:43:30 -0700 Message-ID: <[[email protected]]. com> From: "Tiwari, Vivek" <[[email protected]]> To: South Bay Birders <[[email protected]]> Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 10:43:27 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: [SBB] Fwd: [CALBIRD] Glaucous Gull at PA Baylands Sender: [[email protected]] Errors-To: [[email protected]] X-BeenThere: [[email protected]] X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Photos mentioned are up on http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CALBIRDS/ under photos. ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 18:24:21 -0000 From: "PhilEager" <[[email protected]]> Subject: Glaucous Gull (?) at Palo Alto Baylands My wife and I (visiting from NYC) had what I'm pretty sure is a juvenile Glaucous Gull at the Palo Alto Baylands on Sunday, July 21. However, given where we live and normally bird, I can't be 100% sure and was wondering whether I could get a reality check here. I was under the impression that Glaucous Gull was a rare winter visitor to the Bay Area, hence my hesitation. Otherwise, it seemed pretty clear to us. The bird was in the muddy channel which runs parallel to the trail as it nears the Byxbee Park parking lot. It was slightly larger than a Herring Gull, and white with dusky streaking on the breast and some dusky patches on the scapulars. The legs were pink, the base of the bill was pink with the tip black (either from coloration or from mucking around in the mud). I can post or send pictures if it helps. Any thoughts, either here or in private e-mail? Many thanks. Phil Eager NYC, NY [[email protected]] ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:32:29 -0700 From: Joseph Morlan <[[email protected]]> Subject: Re: Glaucous Gull (?) at Palo Alto Baylands On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 18:24:21 -0000, "PhilEager" <[[email protected]]> wrote: > I can post or send pictures if it helps. Yahoo will strip any attachments. If you want to post photos, please use the web interface at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CALBIRDS/ and select "Photos" from the menu. >Any thoughts, either here or in private e-mail? In California, mid-summer Glaucous Gulls have been controversial at best. See: http://www.montereybay.com/creagrus/SCZgullmys.html -- Joseph Morlan, Pacifica, CA 94044: mailto:[[email protected]] Fall Birding Classes start Sept 4: http://fog.ccsf.org/~jmorlan/ California Bird Records Committee: http://www.wfo-cbrc.org/cbrc/ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 21:10:09 -0000 From: "PhilEager" <[[email protected]]> Subject: Re: Glaucous Gull (?) at Palo Alto Baylands Thanks for the link - I had realized that it was a bit of a stretch but I wasn't finding any real help in field guides. This bird did have some of the brown markings on the scapular that Sibley mentions can be seen in first summer Glaucous Gulls, which is why I was trending that way. I've added a few pics if that helps anyone make an ID call on this - I'd appreciate it. Thanks again. Phil Eager NYC, NY [[email protected]] Received: from merlin.arc.nasa.gov (merlin.arc.nasa.gov [128.102.219.21]) by plaidworks.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6NI4jt11055 for <[[email protected]]>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 11:04:45 -0700 Received: from merlin.ARC.NASA.GOV by merlin.ARC.NASA.GOV (PMDF V6.1 #46498) id <[[email protected]]> for [[email protected]]; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 11:04:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 11:04:29 -0700 (PDT) From: [[email protected]] To: [[email protected]] Cc: [[email protected]], [[email protected]] Message-id: <[[email protected]]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=us-ascii Subject: [SBB] White Gull at Palo Alto Baylands (thanks, Vivek) Sender: [[email protected]] Errors-To: [[email protected]] X-BeenThere: [[email protected]] X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Dear Phil, Concerning the possible Glaucous Gull at the Palo Alto Baylands, as the local county compiler, here are my two cents. The very nice photos you took appear to show the 1st-summer GLAUCOUS-WINGED GULL that has been found from the Baylands to Shoreline Park this summer. We often have one or two 1st-summer birds hanging around (there has also been an adult around this summer, although less frequently seen). The 1st-summer bird I've seen regulary, which looks to be the same as yours, is badly faded and appears to have missed some of its molt. In my experience with Glaucous-winged Gulls the birds develop pink or flesh at the base of their bills during their first summer. By their second winter, they sometimes give a two-toned effect, but never (never say never) the 'dipped in ink' look of an 1st-winter Glaucous. For winter birds, separating the funny 2nd-winter Glaucous-wingeds from 1st-winter Glaucous can often be done on the basis of the the light gray mantle that is seen on the 2nd-winter Glaucous-winged, while the 1st-winter Glaucous has white mantle feathers with variable tan centers. Thanks for the nice shots. Bill Received: from borg.inreach.com (mail.unlimited.net [209.142.2.67]) by plaidworks.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6NLrxt15022 for <[[email protected]]>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:53:59 -0700 Received: from [209.209.19.123] (209-209-19-123.oak.inreach.net [209.209.19.123]) by borg.inreach.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 213CC1B695; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 12:38:05 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: [[email protected]] Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <007001c231d2$93088ee0$[[email protected]]> References: <007001c231d2$93088ee0$[[email protected]]> Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:54:20 -0700 To: "Paul L. Noble" <[[email protected]]>, "South Bay Birders" <[[email protected]]> From: Ruth Troetschler <[[email protected]]> Subject: Re: [SBB] (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: [[email protected]] Errors-To: [[email protected]] X-BeenThere: [[email protected]] X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Dear Paul- I hear (and occasionally see) Wrentits at my home in Los Altos in the fall (usually later than this) almost every year. I think they are dispersing birds, but wonder where they come from. Ruth Troetschler ------- At 3:53 PM -0700 7/22/02, Paul L. Noble wrote: >All, > >Today, (7/22) while servicing a gardening client in north central Los Altos >I heard and subsequently pished out two Wrentits. >The area is far from the birds normal habitat, although they were in a >rather overgrown and brushy garden. >I have seen wrentits in the same general area some years ago at about this >time of year. I suspect they are dispersing birds, perhaps this years >juveniles. >Anyone care to comment on this hypothesis? > >Good Birding, > >Screech. > > > > >Paul L. Noble > >"Screechowl" > >[[email protected]] > > > >Check current weather in Belmont: >http://home.earthlink.net/~screechowl > ^^ > @ @ > ( v ) > ( ) > / \ > m m >_______________________________________________ >south-bay-birds mailing list | [[email protected]] >Help/Unsubscribe/Archives: >http://www.plaidworks.com/mailman/listinfo/south-bay-birds >Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Received: from borg.inreach.com (mail.unlimited.net [209.142.2.67]) by plaidworks.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6NLtxt15114 for <[[email protected]]>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:55:59 -0700 Received: from [209.209.19.123] (209-209-19-123.oak.inreach.net [209.209.19.123]) by borg.inreach.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D14F81B677 for <[[email protected]]>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 12:40:05 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: [[email protected]] Message-Id: Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:56:21 -0700 To: [[email protected]] From: Ruth Troetschler <[[email protected]]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Subject: [SBB] Fwd: FW: Visitor use design meeting-Baylands Sender: [[email protected]] Errors-To: [[email protected]] X-BeenThere: [[email protected]] X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Dear Birders-- Care to comment on this proposal? Ruth Troetschler --------------- >Delivered-To: [[email protected]] >User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.1.3108 >Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 16:18:33 -0700 >Subject: FW: Visitor use design meeting-Baylands >From: SCVAS Environmental Advocate <[[email protected]]> >To: EAC <[[email protected]]> > >Hi EACers, >Can anyone go to this meeting? Pass this along to others who may be able to >help. > >Thanks, >kelly > > >------ Forwarded Message >From: "Bartens, Deborah" <[[email protected]]> >Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:24:22 -0700 >To: "'[[email protected]]'" <[[email protected]]> >Subject: FW: Visitor use design meeting-Baylands >Hello Kelly, >I wanted to let some of the birders know about a meeting coming up at the >Palo Alto Baylands Nature Preserve. We are redesigning the sailing station >parking area and we want to base the design on how visitors use the >preserve. At this point, windsurfers have the strongest voice about how >they want it set up to best serve windsurfers for a rigging area. The >meeting is next Thursday, July 25th at 6pm at the sailing station (dock) >parking area. I'd like some birders to have a voice about how they want >future use designs for this preserve. Please let anyone know about this >meeting if you think they would be interested. I didn't put this on SBB >because it's a preserve use design issue and not bird sightings. > >Thanks, >Deborah Bartens >Naturalist-Palo Alto > > > >------ End of Forwarded Message